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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 15, 2009 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

I was pleased to hear that coach Gruden still burns from the tuck rule fiasco. He's not over it yet either Johnny!:)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

Good! but screw him. Just kidding, sort of. What can I say except that they were So damn close for like four years straight and when they finally made it they got stomped. I'm sure they would have lost anyway but it certainly didn't hurt TB having the coach know Oaklands offense and quaterback backwards and forwards. What really ticks me off is it doesn't matter how good Oakland can be NO ONE ever will say it. Christ! Gannon was setting every record that year and they allmost went undefeated and no one noticed. Oh well ancient history but we'll be back in the next year or so.

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Poster: veblen Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

"Oh well ancient history but we'll be back in the next year or so."

yes, the year after al dies!!!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

you naysayers are all alike. We'll see. At least my team is YOUNG and I have something to look forward to.

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Poster: veblen Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

I am far from a naysayer...I have followed the raiders, with little or no animosity since 1968 or 69, living in the area and attending games for the past ten years, so I have a pretty good understanding of the organization...and I want them to win more than most since I prefer living among happy raider fans rather than unhappy ones...

realists aren't all haters...just easier to call out hate rather than facing the facts that the organization has a lot to be desired in terms of management.

I also believe in the "commitment to excellence" but I am not stuck in the 70's and 80's as the organization seems to be...

"just win baby!!!"

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

Guess you've been a fan longer than me even - 1970. I remember my Grandma had season tix right from the beginning. Don't forget the late 90's early 2000's though. they were right in there usually at the AFC championship for most of that time. Yeah Davis is old and looney now. And if he ever moved my team again I'd wish a curse on him.

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Poster: veblen Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

I imagine the move was hard on you and the locals...

I just am pissed they ruined a nice ballpark on their return with Mt Davis...but I guess they needed the seats...I will never forget the first time I saw it, I was sitting behind home plate on a beautiful sunny afternoon and on arrival to my seat I did the stadium once over and when I looked to the outfield my eyes keep going higher and higher and higher...then my mind went back to the thoughts of the old a's (bando, jackson, blue, hunter, rudi, et al) and the pre-mt davis coliseum...

well at least they are back to selling tickets and avoiding blackouts...

so what ever happened with the broken jaw investigation in napa??? I take it someone was paid some $$$ and it is being dropped.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

Yeah the move was REAL hard. On one hand they were still the same team for a few years and won another Super Bowl but It pretty much made me lose interest in football until they moved back. Kind of remindes me of what Jerry said about the Giants - he's a San Francisco supporter. That's how it's always been for me - the Raiders and A's.

I'm with you on the Collesium. Enjoyed many an A's game and can't believe the ivy is gone. My Dad used to have ready access to season tickets on the third base dugout. Used to love catching double headers on a nice sunny day. That was during their potential second dynasty years with Henderson, McGuire and over rated Canseco.

This post was modified by johnnyonthespot on 2009-09-15 18:25:09

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

Ron Shanklin
Franco Harris
Heidi

It still hurts?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

How on Earth do you keep track of this shit, BD? Is it your professional inclination?

Hey, speaking of which, where is PatK these Forum days?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

Heidi wasn't bad for oakland that's one of the greatest comebacks ever

Franco Harris - yeah that one does still hurt man. You know technically in those days that WAS an illegal reception and shouldn't have stood.

I don't remember the Ron Shanklin one though.

What can I say? It's in the blood. You understand right?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

The pass was intended for Ron Shanklin. Franco went into the history books since if Shanklin had caught the ball unlikely he was going into the end zone (more like the emergency room).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zsdF0ysP0

Funny, they don't mention it in clip, but the 25 catching the ball in earlier clip is Shanklin. I know, as a boy I had his jersey...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

oh ok. Apparently in those days the rule was that ball would only have been eligible if it had bounced off the defender not the offense. So, ONCE again robbed!

I'm glad I didn't know about that Jersey before we became friends

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

I know a guy who worked for Davis in the 60's and 70's. He was asked to meet w/ Davis, and the author of Davis' upcoming book, to review the details of the AFL/NFL merger. Apparently the NFL has re-written the history of the merger and Davis intends to set the record straight.

This guy says that Davis' mind is a sharp as ever, but that he's a wreck physically.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

well to me it's not that I thought he was mentally gone but he does seem to have the aura of a paranoid control freak.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Guilty Pleasure? Not Dead.

He was a MAJOR player in the sport. A lot of people forget that or don't want to admit it.